NOW I understand why Biden...seems heartless to the violence towards Palestinians. If he cut Israel off off aid as I would do, he'd be susceptible to MAGA attacks that he's 'Anti-Israel'....no? I can't help think that Netanyahu is helping Trump by not cooperating with Bidens desire for direction of war....whats the answer??
NOW I understand why Biden...seems heartless to the violence towards Palestinians. If he cut Israel off off aid as I would do, he'd be susceptible to MAGA attacks that he's 'Anti-Israel'....no? I can't help think that Netanyahu is helping Trump by not cooperating with Bidens desire for direction of war....whats the answer??
I am not sure that's really part of Biden's calculus. I think Biden genuinely loves Israel, and has loved Israel for decades. He remembers it as an underdog country that survived despite attempts to annihilate it. Also, I think Biden has been very firm with Netanyahu about excessive civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure. He thinks Israel has not been surgical enough--that it has been using an overly blunt instrument. He has made statements sympathizing with the hardships facing Palestinians but he is completely opposed to Hamas's ideology and dislikes BDS types.
This article on Bidens indoctrination in becoming an Israeli Hawk is fascinating....I now believe that Biden would be ok in losing vital support for his Presidencial reelection in order to support Israel..Joe has a fatal blindspot that Netanyahu (a bad guy like trump) is exploiting.
Absolutely. It makes it very hard to vote for him, though against trump I still will. Unfortunately it seems like it may be too late for another Dem to run. All the ones I really like don't have much of a chance, like Cory Booker. He's attempted to improve factory farming conditions, is smart and compassionate. Don't know where he stands on Israel. Most in Congress receive massive donations from AIPAC. I've been shocked by the amount of censorship against showing empathy for Palestinians and for exposing atrocities being committed against them. The Israeli propaganda machine is exceedingly powerful, and so is their influence.
ItтАЩs a lot more complicated than you think. ItтАЩs more complicated than I think. IтАЩm on team тАЬ no more violenceтАЭ except the annihilation of Hamas.
Their precision have carefully targeted around 100 journalists, yet also 10,000 children. It's an obscenity what's happening there. Israel wants us to think it's complicated, but it's not really. Try reading beyond their giant propaganda machine.
Not propaganda. My mothers family were murdered in Nazi death camps. I lived in Israel between the War for Independence and Yom Kippur. I am 100% against anything тАЬNetanyahu тАЬ but people like you seem completely, so far afield of the truth that your talking points are meaningless. Read up, study, be compassionate. Try for one day!
Of the Holocaust is not propaganda and I have shed tears reading quite a few books and seeing movies. The propaganda I speak of is the Zionists terrible cruelty toward and dehumanization of the Palestinians, 750,000 of whom were forced from their homes. They are now subject to a terrible effort, financed by the US, to literally destroy them and their infrastructure. The Zionists believe their land and more belongs to them. Kids in school are indoctrinated to despise Palestinians and see them as animals. (Animals aren't treated well by people either.) Netanyahu's reign of terror with Biden's blessing is horrifying to many who are willing to see. All criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. The Holocaust does not give Israel permission to do the same thing to Palestine, which wasn't even involved in WW2. Many in Israel think their lives are worth more, that they are blessed by God. I know I can't convince you. Zionists have zero compassion for anyone but themselves.
I also find Lisa's use of the term "Zionist" offensive and downright wrong. All that it means to be Zionist is to support the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. It says nothing about compassion, lack of it, position on the right/left spectrum, support or not for a two-state solution, support or not for settlements, positions on the war with Hamas, etc. Oh, and by the way, Palestinian leadership WAS at least a bit involved in WW2. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a friend of Heinrich Himmler and helped create an SS unit of Yugoslavs, mainly Muslim, called the Handschar. There is a telegram from Himmler to the Grand Mufti expressing thanks for his role in the struggle against World Jewry.
I'm heartened someone sees thru their BS. Their propoganda machine is formidable. Bibi is sabotaging Joe's reelection not only by a 'genocidal' type warfare but by now expanding war ....now the US will provide Israel with more weapons for this catastrophe & turn world against us? Joe was led into a trap by another of the world's anti Democratic authoritarians.
True, but he's really ok with it as the article says. Trump would do the same. Some Zionist group is giving him an award for being Israel's greatest friend, but it seems like Biden should be getting it too. I really wish Biden would not run again. I don't think it's too late if he did it right now. As far as seeing the truth, I'm actually surprised more Liberals still seem to not want to criticize Israel's actions, even some people who are on social media. Boomers, like me, aren't as awakened as I would wish.
I donтАЩt have the answers. ItтАЩs important to remember that Netanyahu has his own significant corruption problems. He wanted to stay out of jail. His plan prior to October Hamas brutal attack was to тАЬreform the judiciaryтАЭto his benefit and keep out of jail. He promised security and failed tragically. HeтАЩs deeply unpopular today.
NOW I understand why Biden...seems heartless to the violence towards Palestinians. If he cut Israel off off aid as I would do, he'd be susceptible to MAGA attacks that he's 'Anti-Israel'....no? I can't help think that Netanyahu is helping Trump by not cooperating with Bidens desire for direction of war....whats the answer??
I am not sure that's really part of Biden's calculus. I think Biden genuinely loves Israel, and has loved Israel for decades. He remembers it as an underdog country that survived despite attempts to annihilate it. Also, I think Biden has been very firm with Netanyahu about excessive civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure. He thinks Israel has not been surgical enough--that it has been using an overly blunt instrument. He has made statements sympathizing with the hardships facing Palestinians but he is completely opposed to Hamas's ideology and dislikes BDS types.
I agree, good points all.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/12/how-joe-biden-became-americas-top-israel-hawk/
This article on Bidens indoctrination in becoming an Israeli Hawk is fascinating....I now believe that Biden would be ok in losing vital support for his Presidencial reelection in order to support Israel..Joe has a fatal blindspot that Netanyahu (a bad guy like trump) is exploiting.
Absolutely. It makes it very hard to vote for him, though against trump I still will. Unfortunately it seems like it may be too late for another Dem to run. All the ones I really like don't have much of a chance, like Cory Booker. He's attempted to improve factory farming conditions, is smart and compassionate. Don't know where he stands on Israel. Most in Congress receive massive donations from AIPAC. I've been shocked by the amount of censorship against showing empathy for Palestinians and for exposing atrocities being committed against them. The Israeli propaganda machine is exceedingly powerful, and so is their influence.
Agree itтАЩs not part of calculus. By the MAGA Will attack crack on his approach to Israel.
Bibi backs trump тАж there would be zero restraint. Plus he could easily manipulate trump.
ItтАЩs a lot more complicated than you think. ItтАЩs more complicated than I think. IтАЩm on team тАЬ no more violenceтАЭ except the annihilation of Hamas.
Their precision have carefully targeted around 100 journalists, yet also 10,000 children. It's an obscenity what's happening there. Israel wants us to think it's complicated, but it's not really. Try reading beyond their giant propaganda machine.
Not propaganda. My mothers family were murdered in Nazi death camps. I lived in Israel between the War for Independence and Yom Kippur. I am 100% against anything тАЬNetanyahu тАЬ but people like you seem completely, so far afield of the truth that your talking points are meaningless. Read up, study, be compassionate. Try for one day!
Of the Holocaust is not propaganda and I have shed tears reading quite a few books and seeing movies. The propaganda I speak of is the Zionists terrible cruelty toward and dehumanization of the Palestinians, 750,000 of whom were forced from their homes. They are now subject to a terrible effort, financed by the US, to literally destroy them and their infrastructure. The Zionists believe their land and more belongs to them. Kids in school are indoctrinated to despise Palestinians and see them as animals. (Animals aren't treated well by people either.) Netanyahu's reign of terror with Biden's blessing is horrifying to many who are willing to see. All criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. The Holocaust does not give Israel permission to do the same thing to Palestine, which wasn't even involved in WW2. Many in Israel think their lives are worth more, that they are blessed by God. I know I can't convince you. Zionists have zero compassion for anyone but themselves.
Meant to say Of course the Holocaust is not propaganda.
Sorry/not sorry тАФ the way you are using the term "Zionists" smacks of antisemitism. Callin' it as I see it. Wise up, Lisa тАФ you can be/do better!
I also find Lisa's use of the term "Zionist" offensive and downright wrong. All that it means to be Zionist is to support the existence of Israel as a Jewish state. It says nothing about compassion, lack of it, position on the right/left spectrum, support or not for a two-state solution, support or not for settlements, positions on the war with Hamas, etc. Oh, and by the way, Palestinian leadership WAS at least a bit involved in WW2. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a friend of Heinrich Himmler and helped create an SS unit of Yugoslavs, mainly Muslim, called the Handschar. There is a telegram from Himmler to the Grand Mufti expressing thanks for his role in the struggle against World Jewry.
I'm heartened someone sees thru their BS. Their propoganda machine is formidable. Bibi is sabotaging Joe's reelection not only by a 'genocidal' type warfare but by now expanding war ....now the US will provide Israel with more weapons for this catastrophe & turn world against us? Joe was led into a trap by another of the world's anti Democratic authoritarians.
True, but he's really ok with it as the article says. Trump would do the same. Some Zionist group is giving him an award for being Israel's greatest friend, but it seems like Biden should be getting it too. I really wish Biden would not run again. I don't think it's too late if he did it right now. As far as seeing the truth, I'm actually surprised more Liberals still seem to not want to criticize Israel's actions, even some people who are on social media. Boomers, like me, aren't as awakened as I would wish.
I donтАЩt have the answers. ItтАЩs important to remember that Netanyahu has his own significant corruption problems. He wanted to stay out of jail. His plan prior to October Hamas brutal attack was to тАЬreform the judiciaryтАЭto his benefit and keep out of jail. He promised security and failed tragically. HeтАЩs deeply unpopular today.