We're so out of it, we don't even have a chance. The only smart American I know is Barbara Walter. She and her family are already prepared to leave the U.S. She even admits in her book.
John had asked for this earlier: It's from "Between Barack and a Hard Place: Racism and White Denial in the Age of Obama" by Tim Wise in 2008: "In fact, even before Obama had been declared the winner of the election, proclamations of racism's early death were becoming ubiquitous. And so ten days before the vote, columnist Frank Rich, writing in the New York Times, declared that concerns about white racism POSSIBLY SINKING OBAMA'S SHIP were so obviously absurd as to indicate evidence of "prevailing antiwhite bias" on the part of the media types who continually raised the subject."
Florida is the target of opportunity. It's General DeSantis today; If there is no effective opposition, it probably will be President DeSantis in 2004. He'll just be another "Strongman" just what we deserve. By the way, is he related to Benito Mussolini?
Let's face it, the war has already started, but at this stage it might best be described as another Phoney War, which existed in late '39 and early '40, just before the Nazi invasion of Norway.
At this late stage of the attempted Religious Right/Far Right takeover, our only chance, which you implied on zoom yesterday, is the creation of a COMBINED PRO-DEMOCRACY FRONT. It's too late for just ISMS to act alone. That goes for Judaism, feminism, African-Americanism, etc.
Time has run out. We have to put it all on the line now before the anti-Semitism becomes uncontrollable. The deep, deep, problem is best stated in "A Brief History of Fascist Lies" by Federico Finchelstein on page 72: "The Fascist attack against psychoanalysis was done in the name of a subject without reason. It implied a domestication of the self and a denial of OBJECTIVE TRUTH in the name of ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Fascists saw psychoanalysis as a significant threat because for them there was no tension between its democratic rejection of an external order of truth as dictated by the church or an authoritarian leader and its affirmation of the alienation of the bourgeois order."
There will be no peace in the U.S., unless we find an answer to this basic problem within anti-Semitism, which played a significant part in the holocaust, as well as, the destruction of Nazi Germany. It looks like to me that we in the U.S. are moving "lockstep" in the same direction. Where am I wrong?
That article ended on an optimistic note. I too have confidence in our democratic institutions enough to believe that authoritarianism and extremism doesn't stand a chance.
As a former Religious Liberty Secretary for my local Seventh-day Adventist Church, I used to tell my congregation that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
And that's the price every American patriot has to pay to ensure that our freedoms for us and our children will long endure.
A good interview. I take away two main things. First, throughout history humans have been extremist in their actions, tearing down cultures and building them up. It is in the nature of the species and not a sudden anomaly. Any culture which hopes to endure must take this dangerous inclination into consideration, just like the weather, ensuring that its resilience against extremism is consistently being maintained through education and modeling behavior.
Second, Janine di Giovanni remains optimistic about the United States' capacity to weather its current extremism. She knows from her experience as a war journalist the taste and smell of
cultural and national dissolution through extremism. If her gut is telling her that this country seems to her to still have some fight still left in it to resist the siren call of the Strongman, then I am encouraged, not complacent.
If we citizens make the effort to counter this rising tide of extremism and anocracy, we have a fighting chance to save our democracy.
Good to hear from you Randolph. We're all struggling to get through this as best we can. Keep the Faith.
Finis.
We're so out of it, we don't even have a chance. The only smart American I know is Barbara Walter. She and her family are already prepared to leave the U.S. She even admits in her book.
If we continue to runaway from the truth, we will have no future.
Family comes first.
We're now "up shits creek without a paddle" and we don't even know it. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
John had asked for this earlier: It's from "Between Barack and a Hard Place: Racism and White Denial in the Age of Obama" by Tim Wise in 2008: "In fact, even before Obama had been declared the winner of the election, proclamations of racism's early death were becoming ubiquitous. And so ten days before the vote, columnist Frank Rich, writing in the New York Times, declared that concerns about white racism POSSIBLY SINKING OBAMA'S SHIP were so obviously absurd as to indicate evidence of "prevailing antiwhite bias" on the part of the media types who continually raised the subject."
Florida is the target of opportunity. It's General DeSantis today; If there is no effective opposition, it probably will be President DeSantis in 2004. He'll just be another "Strongman" just what we deserve. By the way, is he related to Benito Mussolini?
Let's face it, the war has already started, but at this stage it might best be described as another Phoney War, which existed in late '39 and early '40, just before the Nazi invasion of Norway.
At this late stage of the attempted Religious Right/Far Right takeover, our only chance, which you implied on zoom yesterday, is the creation of a COMBINED PRO-DEMOCRACY FRONT. It's too late for just ISMS to act alone. That goes for Judaism, feminism, African-Americanism, etc.
Time has run out. We have to put it all on the line now before the anti-Semitism becomes uncontrollable. The deep, deep, problem is best stated in "A Brief History of Fascist Lies" by Federico Finchelstein on page 72: "The Fascist attack against psychoanalysis was done in the name of a subject without reason. It implied a domestication of the self and a denial of OBJECTIVE TRUTH in the name of ABSOLUTE TRUTH. Fascists saw psychoanalysis as a significant threat because for them there was no tension between its democratic rejection of an external order of truth as dictated by the church or an authoritarian leader and its affirmation of the alienation of the bourgeois order."
There will be no peace in the U.S., unless we find an answer to this basic problem within anti-Semitism, which played a significant part in the holocaust, as well as, the destruction of Nazi Germany. It looks like to me that we in the U.S. are moving "lockstep" in the same direction. Where am I wrong?
Interesting and informative interview. Thank you!
That article ended on an optimistic note. I too have confidence in our democratic institutions enough to believe that authoritarianism and extremism doesn't stand a chance.
As a former Religious Liberty Secretary for my local Seventh-day Adventist Church, I used to tell my congregation that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
And that's the price every American patriot has to pay to ensure that our freedoms for us and our children will long endure.
I share Janine's cautious optimism.
A good interview. I take away two main things. First, throughout history humans have been extremist in their actions, tearing down cultures and building them up. It is in the nature of the species and not a sudden anomaly. Any culture which hopes to endure must take this dangerous inclination into consideration, just like the weather, ensuring that its resilience against extremism is consistently being maintained through education and modeling behavior.
Second, Janine di Giovanni remains optimistic about the United States' capacity to weather its current extremism. She knows from her experience as a war journalist the taste and smell of
cultural and national dissolution through extremism. If her gut is telling her that this country seems to her to still have some fight still left in it to resist the siren call of the Strongman, then I am encouraged, not complacent.
If we citizens make the effort to counter this rising tide of extremism and anocracy, we have a fighting chance to save our democracy.
So I guess we had better make the effort.
Excellent. Thank you. 👏👏