Jan 6 seemed to be pretty disorganized for an insurrection. And why weren't they armed? And why did the Capitol Police let everyone in? And why did Nancy P./Check Schumer turn down more security? And why did the FBI imbed people with the protesters?
With respect, your so-called questions seem less to be honest concerns, and instead to be just a pretense. Just another troll which allows you to parrot propaganda talking points and denialism—all which we have heard regurgitated ad nauseum from the rightwing media for months, now.
As such, your “questions” are deflections from the gross attack that January 6th was upon our democracy.
Frankly, you sound like someone blaming the rape victim, instead of the rapist himself. So your suppositins— without any basis in fact—are deeply offensive to me as a proud American citizen.
If in fact you are making a serious inquiry, I invite you to turn off Fox News and social media, and consult instead reliable news sources of record, including court records which have prosecuted many of the rioters who are singing like songbirds just now.
The deeply sad part is, you think you already know the answers to these questions. But the truth is, you have been systematically lied to for years—by people and vested interests who are using you for power, and who don’t give a damn about you, much less democracy.
By the way, democracy is not getting your way all the time. It’s sitting down like an adult and talking RATIONALLY with your political opponents to come to a rational, workable consensus. Just as our Founding Fathers intended
If you think your squirming bag of grievances is more important than democracy and the rule of law, then attempting a reasonable conversation with you is a waste of time.
You will fail, as your fascist movement will fail, even if you refuse to see it for what it is. Your views are a minority, in terms of population across this great land and the American electorate, broadly.
Your MAGA movement is no longer Republican. It’s not even conservative. It has taken a sharp nosedive, now instead a radical reactionary white nationalist cult of personality who worships one very flawed and fragile human being. One who is dangerous to the well-being of our blessed country. And one who will never be permitted to wield power again.
Robert, I appreciate your respectful reply. I completely disagree with you, but that's OK. We can agree to disagree. And vote for the people who we want to vote for.
However, it saddens me to see so many Americans continue to buy the narratives that the Democrats (and Republicans as well) put out there without thinking critically about their claims. Everyone should question everything the media (mostly in the Dems camp) lays out there. Assume it is a lie until it can be proven true.
I am in favor of making America great but am not a Trump lover.
By the way, did you see that Rachel Maddow said that Trump did not incite the riot at the Capitol?
I will answer with my thoughts. An insurrections doesnt have to succeed and it doesnt have to be highly organized to be an insurrection. Maybe if they were more organized they would have and maybe next time they will (Let us hope not). They did have plenty of weapons from stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles and other items used for force. The reason they may not have had guns if a mob with guns might be more easily detected as not a protest and their tactic was not get stopped, but a good question. But that fact still does not diminish it that it wasnt an insurrection. The last two questions you ask I have not seen evidence of either of those. What is your information sources that confirm those are true facts. If you could show me I would be interested in seeing them.
I watched on PBS. Couldn't take my eyes off the tv, even knowing the story. Real question for me is, what about the 35 - 40% that follow FOX. That group, as in Germany, can change the course of history. Enjoy the conversation.
Yes, riveting, mind-blowing TV last night ….. especially revealing, the deep level of planning. And using voices of conservatives and Trump supporters to present the revelations of the extensive planning. Unfortunately, that third of US, those thoroughly propagandized Fox non-news consumers, have been trained to avoid watching any of the Jan6 hearings …. Art, don’t we have to start from a place of understanding that they will continue to take marching orders from Trump, DeSantis, Tucker …. that they will continue to support, and act as, the enemies of democracy. Is that too stark?? Or does that make it crystal clear what we have to do, as Ruth implies at the end of her essay, today?
There is no understanding when dealing with the effects of Mass Hypnotic Propaganda. We use to call it Neurolinguistic Programming. The Assault on Reason, Gore and The Corruption of Reality, Shumarker, do a good job in explaining the process. Google: "Goebbels 19 Principles of Propaganda", short, very enlightening read. I want to make my position very clear: we are in a war. The war is between awareness and complacency. Wanton ignorance negates responsibility and therefore, action. Projection, is a primitive defense to shift blame. The kitchen is getting hot. Many of us have received death threats. It will only get worse. Don't understand, fight. Arm yourself with knowledge......... Be well
Jan 6 seemed to be pretty disorganized for an insurrection. And why weren't they armed? And why did the Capitol Police let everyone in? And why did Nancy P./Check Schumer turn down more security? And why did the FBI imbed people with the protesters?
So many questions...
With respect, your so-called questions seem less to be honest concerns, and instead to be just a pretense. Just another troll which allows you to parrot propaganda talking points and denialism—all which we have heard regurgitated ad nauseum from the rightwing media for months, now.
As such, your “questions” are deflections from the gross attack that January 6th was upon our democracy.
Frankly, you sound like someone blaming the rape victim, instead of the rapist himself. So your suppositins— without any basis in fact—are deeply offensive to me as a proud American citizen.
If in fact you are making a serious inquiry, I invite you to turn off Fox News and social media, and consult instead reliable news sources of record, including court records which have prosecuted many of the rioters who are singing like songbirds just now.
The deeply sad part is, you think you already know the answers to these questions. But the truth is, you have been systematically lied to for years—by people and vested interests who are using you for power, and who don’t give a damn about you, much less democracy.
By the way, democracy is not getting your way all the time. It’s sitting down like an adult and talking RATIONALLY with your political opponents to come to a rational, workable consensus. Just as our Founding Fathers intended
If you think your squirming bag of grievances is more important than democracy and the rule of law, then attempting a reasonable conversation with you is a waste of time.
You will fail, as your fascist movement will fail, even if you refuse to see it for what it is. Your views are a minority, in terms of population across this great land and the American electorate, broadly.
Your MAGA movement is no longer Republican. It’s not even conservative. It has taken a sharp nosedive, now instead a radical reactionary white nationalist cult of personality who worships one very flawed and fragile human being. One who is dangerous to the well-being of our blessed country. And one who will never be permitted to wield power again.
Robert, I appreciate your respectful reply. I completely disagree with you, but that's OK. We can agree to disagree. And vote for the people who we want to vote for.
However, it saddens me to see so many Americans continue to buy the narratives that the Democrats (and Republicans as well) put out there without thinking critically about their claims. Everyone should question everything the media (mostly in the Dems camp) lays out there. Assume it is a lie until it can be proven true.
I am in favor of making America great but am not a Trump lover.
By the way, did you see that Rachel Maddow said that Trump did not incite the riot at the Capitol?
Great recap. Watch the web, spiders like to play with their prey. All the questions have been answered multiple times. He's a troll.
This above quote is pure bullshit. If not a foreign troll, then a pure propagandist Traitor. The idea is to implant doubt. Don't fall for it.
Can you answer any of my questions?
I will answer with my thoughts. An insurrections doesnt have to succeed and it doesnt have to be highly organized to be an insurrection. Maybe if they were more organized they would have and maybe next time they will (Let us hope not). They did have plenty of weapons from stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles and other items used for force. The reason they may not have had guns if a mob with guns might be more easily detected as not a protest and their tactic was not get stopped, but a good question. But that fact still does not diminish it that it wasnt an insurrection. The last two questions you ask I have not seen evidence of either of those. What is your information sources that confirm those are true facts. If you could show me I would be interested in seeing them.
Thank you for this beauty & inspiration!
I watched on PBS. Couldn't take my eyes off the tv, even knowing the story. Real question for me is, what about the 35 - 40% that follow FOX. That group, as in Germany, can change the course of history. Enjoy the conversation.
Yes, riveting, mind-blowing TV last night ….. especially revealing, the deep level of planning. And using voices of conservatives and Trump supporters to present the revelations of the extensive planning. Unfortunately, that third of US, those thoroughly propagandized Fox non-news consumers, have been trained to avoid watching any of the Jan6 hearings …. Art, don’t we have to start from a place of understanding that they will continue to take marching orders from Trump, DeSantis, Tucker …. that they will continue to support, and act as, the enemies of democracy. Is that too stark?? Or does that make it crystal clear what we have to do, as Ruth implies at the end of her essay, today?
Deep level of planning
There is no understanding when dealing with the effects of Mass Hypnotic Propaganda. We use to call it Neurolinguistic Programming. The Assault on Reason, Gore and The Corruption of Reality, Shumarker, do a good job in explaining the process. Google: "Goebbels 19 Principles of Propaganda", short, very enlightening read. I want to make my position very clear: we are in a war. The war is between awareness and complacency. Wanton ignorance negates responsibility and therefore, action. Projection, is a primitive defense to shift blame. The kitchen is getting hot. Many of us have received death threats. It will only get worse. Don't understand, fight. Arm yourself with knowledge......... Be well