Yes. Germany had only had 15 years of a "democratic government" known as the Weimar Republic, before Hitler took over. He wanted the glory of imperialism in a post Monarchic point in history. These people are all looking to be kings without being royalty. Like the Saudi Prince, who is another person Trump admires. While we have had a muc…
Yes. Germany had only had 15 years of a "democratic government" known as the Weimar Republic, before Hitler took over. He wanted the glory of imperialism in a post Monarchic point in history. These people are all looking to be kings without being royalty. Like the Saudi Prince, who is another person Trump admires. While we have had a much longer democracy, it appears that many do not value that. I have been wondering how much of this is from people immigrating from places where they lived under a repressive government. They admire their cultures, and therefore do not want the USA to be different from what they left other than to have certain freedoms. They do not understand that those freedoms will make the US unlike the places they left behind. And, they don't have a deep seated understanding of democracy. I would say that Red states are currently less democratic than Blue states. I also feel concerned that Trump is preparing us for a radical program regarding "immigrants." We already see Abbott getting away with killing people trying to get to the US, without any legal consequences. He should be tried as a murderer as far as I am concerned. Instead he has normalized our accepting this treatment of human beings because they have been othered. Trump has also been extremely inhumane in his treatment of immigrants with separating families, even babies from their parents. There has been no real consequence for that. I see Trump othering immigrants as Hitler othered Jews and laid societies problems at their feet, and making it slowly acceptable to be undemocratic. His immigrant wife and his immigrant father-in-law who it appears was a former criminal in Yugoslavia. https://www.thedailybeast.com/melanias-dad-a-new-american-citizen-with-a-record-in-yugoslavias-secret-police-files
But he has already gotten his US citizenship. Does that make him any less an immigrant? I am curious how many former immigrants are going to vote for Trump. Is it widely known that he plans to put immigrants in camps? He is normalizing so many fascist things I just feel afraid, because it all adds up to Not Democracy.
While I agree with most of your points, I disagree that all immigrants from foreign countries are susceptible to fascist -MAGA tendencies. While I understand that families of Cuban refugees lean right for fear of communism, I believe this cult is more related to inadequate education in the US, news and social media silos and some extreme religious mantra of reliance on a unearthly male figure to solve one’s problems. Mind-numbing and tragic.
Hi Elizabeth, I am not saying they are, but I know a lot of Eastern Europeans who are Republicans, who came from former Soviet Union countries. The Cubans I know are in Chicago and not so much Republicans as is more common in Miami. I think you make a good point about inadequate education in the US, and I know the Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean bots get those who are vulnerable. But, what makes people vulnerable to disinformation?
Thx for responding. As to your question, In no particular order, Disassociation from society and religion (father-figure deity) without education. Inner sadness. Lack of empathy. Fear of the unknown. So many possibilities.
Yes. Germany had only had 15 years of a "democratic government" known as the Weimar Republic, before Hitler took over. He wanted the glory of imperialism in a post Monarchic point in history. These people are all looking to be kings without being royalty. Like the Saudi Prince, who is another person Trump admires. While we have had a much longer democracy, it appears that many do not value that. I have been wondering how much of this is from people immigrating from places where they lived under a repressive government. They admire their cultures, and therefore do not want the USA to be different from what they left other than to have certain freedoms. They do not understand that those freedoms will make the US unlike the places they left behind. And, they don't have a deep seated understanding of democracy. I would say that Red states are currently less democratic than Blue states. I also feel concerned that Trump is preparing us for a radical program regarding "immigrants." We already see Abbott getting away with killing people trying to get to the US, without any legal consequences. He should be tried as a murderer as far as I am concerned. Instead he has normalized our accepting this treatment of human beings because they have been othered. Trump has also been extremely inhumane in his treatment of immigrants with separating families, even babies from their parents. There has been no real consequence for that. I see Trump othering immigrants as Hitler othered Jews and laid societies problems at their feet, and making it slowly acceptable to be undemocratic. His immigrant wife and his immigrant father-in-law who it appears was a former criminal in Yugoslavia. https://www.thedailybeast.com/melanias-dad-a-new-american-citizen-with-a-record-in-yugoslavias-secret-police-files
But he has already gotten his US citizenship. Does that make him any less an immigrant? I am curious how many former immigrants are going to vote for Trump. Is it widely known that he plans to put immigrants in camps? He is normalizing so many fascist things I just feel afraid, because it all adds up to Not Democracy.
While I agree with most of your points, I disagree that all immigrants from foreign countries are susceptible to fascist -MAGA tendencies. While I understand that families of Cuban refugees lean right for fear of communism, I believe this cult is more related to inadequate education in the US, news and social media silos and some extreme religious mantra of reliance on a unearthly male figure to solve one’s problems. Mind-numbing and tragic.
Hi Elizabeth, I am not saying they are, but I know a lot of Eastern Europeans who are Republicans, who came from former Soviet Union countries. The Cubans I know are in Chicago and not so much Republicans as is more common in Miami. I think you make a good point about inadequate education in the US, and I know the Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean bots get those who are vulnerable. But, what makes people vulnerable to disinformation?
Thx for responding. As to your question, In no particular order, Disassociation from society and religion (father-figure deity) without education. Inner sadness. Lack of empathy. Fear of the unknown. So many possibilities.