Cornell Belcher was just on MSNBC (waiting for you in about 45 minutes, Ruth) saying that it's a cowardly, weak attitude we Dems have, refusing to stand behind the president who has done so much legislatively for American citizens. Obama's first debate performance was horrible, as was Reagan's (yuck), and one bad performance is not the end of the world. As a former symphony violinist, I also know that wearing oneself out on the day of a performance with rehearsals NEVER WORKS. So I just sent a good contribution to Biden's campaign and intend to continue. Ruth was right today: the liar is on the offensive with all his lies, and that leaves his opponent in the possible miserable position of having to respond and refute them rather than getting out a positive message. We need to get LIVE FACT-CHECKING BACK. SHAME ON CNN, THE COWARDS!!
YES!! And I agree that HE needs to see US understand his value and strength so he can continue the campaign with full confidence. Further, WE ALL need to see each other support him instead of being cowardly assholes who drop their support at the least little problem. Having the moral fortitude and intelligence to see the big picture and stand up for democracy is key for Americans now. I just did a phonebank here in Colorado and met a BRAND-NEW CITIZEN who was looking forward to voting for the first time--let's all give her good reason to be proud to be American!
While we were there, Biden was strong, energetic and engaging at NC rally.
A couple of other positive tidbits. Rebound?
From the ED of VotersOfTomorrow, Gen-Z organization
“Focus groups and dials all gave Biden an edge in the debate. 81% of people told CNN this didn’t change their minds. The non-political people I spoke to said that Biden seemed old, but that Trump seemed like a lunatic.
But instead of celebrating that, us politics nerds are regurgitating the dooming and bedwetting happening in our echo chamber.”
From Sarah Longwell, (founder Rs against trump and The Bulwark) political strategist; noted for her focus groups.
“We did a focus group this morning with two-time Trump voters who are out on Trump...one of the things you heard from all the voters in the group is that Trump is a liar. Trump is a bad person. They don't wanna vote for Trump."
If we Dems can't do better than listening to the pundits wet their beds and cry, we are shameful. Let's support Biden with votes, donations, and public statements.
Biden raised $14M the day of the debate and this morning. It was their best fundraising since the announcement of their campaign in 2023. Maybe the people know more than the pundits. There's a reason why Trump and the Republicans are anxious to get rid of Biden.
I immediately contributed to the campaign- in fact before the debate was over. I will probably give more $ before Sunday's fundraising deadline, because I would like to see the New York Times Editorial Board eat its words.
Great analysis, Ruth. I had to turn the debate off about 30 minutes in. I was really tired. I think what nobody’s acknowledging is the real costs of climate change and that climate change is driving a lot of the immigration and climate changes costing us a lot of money in disasters and nobody talks about it. Sigh. We’ll just have to do the best we can and keep voting and working with our local officials. Still going to vote Biden.
Agree. Climate change is wearing everything out, it's a constant stress on all levels to our bodies and minds. I was in Congress in June lobbying Reps and Senators, along with other Citizens Climate Lobby folks, and in one of our meetings our Rep said, basically, deliver us a D majority and we can enact these measures you are promoting. We are ready!
So folks, VOTE VOTE VOTE GET OUT THE VOTE TALK TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND EVERYBODY YOU KNOW AND VOTE LIKE OUR SURVIVAL AS A SPECIES DEPENDS ON IT!!!!
It’s a pretty obvious stack ..Orin..and we even prophesied this ‘looking worse ‘ the closer the election . Stay the course , this is a team ,far more underestimated than they…Get Out The Vote ..and Vote 💙
The only thing missing from the format last night was the most important thing: ‘on-site, real-time fact-checkers”. That would have exposed Trump’s complete stupidity. That said, I’ve been a Biden-believer all this time, but not anymore. He (and Jill) have to think beyond themselves and think about what’s at stake here: our Democracy. Our country. Biden has four months to go before the election, - and then another FOUR YEARS to stay on point, focused, and sharp?? I love the guy but it’s time for him to step aside or else, as Bill Maher puts it, we’re in for a “Ruth-Bader-Biden scenario” and that’s simply unacceptable. It’s time for Biden to leave office as heroic and VERY accomplished, successful president.
I certainly hope your comment is not a response to my post; nowhere do I blame Joe or Jill Biden for anything! If you want to blame someone, then cast blame at “Father Time”…who gets the best of ALL of us at one time or another. Joe’s been EXCELLENT and so has Jill, - but four and a half MORE years, - into his mid-EIGHTIES??? I think not. This election is about saving our country, and saving Democracy! That’s bigger than any “one” of us. I defer to Bill Maher’s comments in his monologue and during his panel discussion last night on his show which you can find on You Tube. And for the record, IF Biden is our candidate, he’ll have my full support, as I’ve already donated a lot of money into his campaign. I just don’t think he should be running this time around. Time to pass the baton. Again, take a few minutes and watch Bill Maher’s show on You Tube that was on last night.
I disagree about having Biden step down, for a couple of reasons. One, he is mentally still very sharp and has a lot of experience that we need in the office right now. And two, there are many, many people who stay sharp beyond their 80s. I will also add that the people I've seen suggested to replace Biden don't have the experience to do the same level of work Biden has done, and will continue to do.
Over the years I’ve helped escort and plan reunions for WW2 veterans. Several of them are still around and are still sharp in their late 90s and 100s. So we can’t predict what mid-80s is for Joe based on a 90 minute Gish gallop event by Trump enabled by CNN. Trump is a strongman character. He’s an actor. Joe is not. Joe will decide when he’s ready to leave. We’ve trusted him so far. I continue to count on him. I’m not letting some fake ass liar put me into a panic.
Ruth, Thank you, thank you for your analysis! It all comes down to stage presence and the truth gets buried. Sadly, Biden was unable to defend the truth very well.
Unfortunately for Pres. Biden, many of the Talking Heads, like Ezra Klein, and now Medhi Hassan, are saying Joe needs to go.
The talking heads need to look at the president’s record, his achievements, his character and give him a break for a 90 minute free for all not abated by CNN in which Trump lied consistently and even brought some new material to his schtick. We are all familiar enough with Biden by now to understand he is energized and compassionate regarding his base and audience, which was absent at this particular debate. Why was that? Did anyone see his rally only eighteen hours later in NC where he brought the booming voice 🔥 and loving leadership, his presidential style at its finest? The man is human and can be forgiven a low energy performance in which he was not feeling well. You’d remove him from the ticket for a mere ninety minutes of being overwhelmed with a firehose of lies and no one exposing Trumps ongoing lies and pushback? Shame on you for such disrespect to this fine president. He is a human being after all, one of the finest, not Superman exposed and alone on a dark stage with the equivalent of Satan much too close to him and forever screeching.
I appreciate what you say. Heather Cox Richardson had some excellent comments in support. I’m sticking with Biden, but there are some powerful voices who are telling him he has to go. I’m very disappointed in those talking heads, especially Medhi Hassan.
Brava! Thanks so much for pulling us off the ledge and bringing us back to sanity and reason.
I agree: Biden is the best president ever. We are lucky he has agreed to run and then run again considering the worldwide disaster and chaos of the prior administration. I am steadfastly and absolutely supporting the Biden Harris Administration and voting for a second term.
Biden did site the lies. Frequently. And Trump lied, continuously. That’s his status quo , while Biden runs the country with expert diplomacy , it’s a complicated world with a thousand cuts a day into the fray.
It was ,for the informed, a lying debacle, just what we expected. Repetitive. Boring. His base loves it. Nothing but old hate for us.
There is a hard fact here that cannot be ignored. Whatever the case about last night (a cold, a bad night, a weak performance, or whatever) the simple fact is that Joe Biden is old. I can safely talk about this because I’m only a year younger than he is. Being old at any given moment in itself is not the problem. What is the problem is that because he is over 80, the odds are heavily stacked against his being at all certain of being up to another four years. And it seems to me that if he really does have our best interests at heart, as I believe he does, he needs to acknowledge the implications of those odds. He needs to step aside and hand the awful burden of the US Presidency off to the next generation, and he should have prepared to do that some time ago.
I agree. He initially implied that he would be the stopgap President, serving one term to prevent trump from regaining the White House and then making way for someone else. He had four years to choose that other person and get the DNC and the Democratic Leadership Team on board. Instead he fell into the trap of thinking that only he could beat trump. I imagine that being President is rather intoxicating and not easy at all to walk away from so there is that factor as well.
Thank you for your comment and for the courage it took in posting it. I did the same elsewhere and was told that that if I didn’t think Biden was the best President ever! and the end-all, be-all for the job of President!, then I could just go away and how dare I kick him when he was down. I am always wary of the ‘gushers’, people who jump all in without looking at or acknowledging the facts, people who tell others with different opinions or thoughts to shut up or go away. I’m seeing a lot of that right now across multiple Substack accounts. Thanks again for your comment.
I think we have to expect that people will defend Biden utterly, and indeed there is a great deal to defend. I too have gotten some pushback elsewhere. It is to be expected.
No, I don’t agree. A lot of people in their 80’s and even 90’s are very sharp and some also have a wealth of experience. I think Joe is one of those people. It’s too late for him to bow out now. And if he did bow out, it would be chaotic and the Democrats would lose. I think we have to do everything we can to support him and what he stands for. The stakes are too high. The threat of authoritarianism is too great.
Unfortunately only time will prove one of us right or wrong. But if Biden remains in the race and Trump wins because of that, it will be too late to gainsay the odds
I disagree with you, on the basis that I think the job energizes him. He has shown that when needed for real issues/events, he has the stamina. I don't see that changing any time soon.
None of this is accidental or incidental. The underfunding of libraries and demonizing of literacy, the shift of news from fact-reporting to entertainment, and the insistence of adherence to Christian dogma as a qualifier for public office, all lay a fertile groundwork for bowing down to an authoritarian, even one as ignorant and weak as DJT. We are so screwed. They've been working on this since 1964. We are late to the party.
Trump is indeed a horrible, horrible person. And as Ruth says the bar is set incredibly low for him. All he has to do is keep repeating his lies and attacks with his reptilian sneer and tough guy swagger, and people eat it up.
Biden is dealing with tough, real, complicated issues. He reviews facts and examines options for solving problems. The real world is much more complex and subtle than the fake Trump BS ("I could end this war immediately"). But let's face it, Biden was incoherent much of the time last night. He said "We beat Medicare." He got numbers and facts and stories wrong and seemed confused and out of it.
I think Biden has been a very good President in many respects, and I will continue to support him if he is the nominee. But we need a President who is sharp, alert, in control, and can communicate clearly and decisively all the time, not just once in a while. What happens if Putin attacks Poland, or Xi attacks Taiwan, when Biden is confused? What happens if we have another major terrorist attack on US soil, like 911, or Oct 7 in Israel? Do we just wait for Biden to come out of his fog and hope for the best?
As traumatic and difficult as it would be, I think the best solution is for Biden to step aside so we can have an open convention. If he does that he will go down in history as being one of our greatest patriots and a hero for Democracy. If he stays in the race I think the odds are very high that Trump will win the election (maybe even fairly), and then Democracy is over in the United States.
Trump is a dangerous seasoned liar and propagandist as you have written. We need your help to make more People aware of the techniques
he employs and how best to fight the latest talking points about not changing the names of schools and military bases named after Confederates because it costs too much and erases the history of America. He stated George Washington did not have slaves. My community authorised funds to change school names and local republicans complain the money should be used elsewhere.
I did not watch the debate. I am in a different time zone and at 3 am I was sleeping. I am in total agreement with what you are saying. I did not need to watch the debate because I am not an undecided voter, and honestly, I cannot stomach Trump. So, I wait to hear from people I respect. Thank you.
Debates for me are like first time job interviews for those unacquainted with the candidates. Here both candidates have track records. Both have articulated the direction they want to take the country in. Trump wants all power centralized in the Presidency; he wants to rule as monarchs do. While I am not enamored with Biden’s Middle East policies, I do believe maintaining a vibrant democracy is important. The difference between the two for me is so vast that nothing either one of them said would make a difference. While we always want our guy / girl to look good nothing that happened in the debate would have changed things for me . Honestly, I would vote for a random homeless person before I would vote for Trump. Why would I vote for a digital rapist, and convicted felon who steals the countries secrets to sell them to our enemies. Biden could have peed on himself onstage and I would still vote for him . But that’s just me .
Cornell Belcher was just on MSNBC (waiting for you in about 45 minutes, Ruth) saying that it's a cowardly, weak attitude we Dems have, refusing to stand behind the president who has done so much legislatively for American citizens. Obama's first debate performance was horrible, as was Reagan's (yuck), and one bad performance is not the end of the world. As a former symphony violinist, I also know that wearing oneself out on the day of a performance with rehearsals NEVER WORKS. So I just sent a good contribution to Biden's campaign and intend to continue. Ruth was right today: the liar is on the offensive with all his lies, and that leaves his opponent in the possible miserable position of having to respond and refute them rather than getting out a positive message. We need to get LIVE FACT-CHECKING BACK. SHAME ON CNN, THE COWARDS!!
I did send in money as well. He needs to see we have his back.
YES!! And I agree that HE needs to see US understand his value and strength so he can continue the campaign with full confidence. Further, WE ALL need to see each other support him instead of being cowardly assholes who drop their support at the least little problem. Having the moral fortitude and intelligence to see the big picture and stand up for democracy is key for Americans now. I just did a phonebank here in Colorado and met a BRAND-NEW CITIZEN who was looking forward to voting for the first time--let's all give her good reason to be proud to be American!
Thank you for Lucid this morning 👊
While we were there, Biden was strong, energetic and engaging at NC rally.
A couple of other positive tidbits. Rebound?
From the ED of VotersOfTomorrow, Gen-Z organization
“Focus groups and dials all gave Biden an edge in the debate. 81% of people told CNN this didn’t change their minds. The non-political people I spoke to said that Biden seemed old, but that Trump seemed like a lunatic.
But instead of celebrating that, us politics nerds are regurgitating the dooming and bedwetting happening in our echo chamber.”
From Sarah Longwell, (founder Rs against trump and The Bulwark) political strategist; noted for her focus groups.
“We did a focus group this morning with two-time Trump voters who are out on Trump...one of the things you heard from all the voters in the group is that Trump is a liar. Trump is a bad person. They don't wanna vote for Trump."
If we Dems can't do better than listening to the pundits wet their beds and cry, we are shameful. Let's support Biden with votes, donations, and public statements.
👍👍👍
I made a donation to show support … small, but counts toward number of people donating.
Biden raised $14M the day of the debate and this morning. It was their best fundraising since the announcement of their campaign in 2023. Maybe the people know more than the pundits. There's a reason why Trump and the Republicans are anxious to get rid of Biden.
I forgot to mention that the campaign raised more money in the 11pm - 12 am hour than it had since first announcing Biden's candidacy in 2023.
Ba da Bing 2.
Ba da Bing.
I immediately contributed to the campaign- in fact before the debate was over. I will probably give more $ before Sunday's fundraising deadline, because I would like to see the New York Times Editorial Board eat its words.
Great analysis, Ruth. I had to turn the debate off about 30 minutes in. I was really tired. I think what nobody’s acknowledging is the real costs of climate change and that climate change is driving a lot of the immigration and climate changes costing us a lot of money in disasters and nobody talks about it. Sigh. We’ll just have to do the best we can and keep voting and working with our local officials. Still going to vote Biden.
Agree. Climate change is wearing everything out, it's a constant stress on all levels to our bodies and minds. I was in Congress in June lobbying Reps and Senators, along with other Citizens Climate Lobby folks, and in one of our meetings our Rep said, basically, deliver us a D majority and we can enact these measures you are promoting. We are ready!
So folks, VOTE VOTE VOTE GET OUT THE VOTE TALK TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND EVERYBODY YOU KNOW AND VOTE LIKE OUR SURVIVAL AS A SPECIES DEPENDS ON IT!!!!
Agreed. I don’t seem to read you criticizing CNN over the debate format. Structures inform health.
Tried to share this. Again, FB removed it within seconds.
Try posting it as a comment on an unrelated image post. See my FB page to see what I mean.
https://www.facebook.com/teri.gidwitz
It’s a pretty obvious stack ..Orin..and we even prophesied this ‘looking worse ‘ the closer the election . Stay the course , this is a team ,far more underestimated than they…Get Out The Vote ..and Vote 💙
The only thing missing from the format last night was the most important thing: ‘on-site, real-time fact-checkers”. That would have exposed Trump’s complete stupidity. That said, I’ve been a Biden-believer all this time, but not anymore. He (and Jill) have to think beyond themselves and think about what’s at stake here: our Democracy. Our country. Biden has four months to go before the election, - and then another FOUR YEARS to stay on point, focused, and sharp?? I love the guy but it’s time for him to step aside or else, as Bill Maher puts it, we’re in for a “Ruth-Bader-Biden scenario” and that’s simply unacceptable. It’s time for Biden to leave office as heroic and VERY accomplished, successful president.
No!!!
Right, blame all on Biden and throw in Jill for good measure. Our country is not at stake because of them.
I certainly hope your comment is not a response to my post; nowhere do I blame Joe or Jill Biden for anything! If you want to blame someone, then cast blame at “Father Time”…who gets the best of ALL of us at one time or another. Joe’s been EXCELLENT and so has Jill, - but four and a half MORE years, - into his mid-EIGHTIES??? I think not. This election is about saving our country, and saving Democracy! That’s bigger than any “one” of us. I defer to Bill Maher’s comments in his monologue and during his panel discussion last night on his show which you can find on You Tube. And for the record, IF Biden is our candidate, he’ll have my full support, as I’ve already donated a lot of money into his campaign. I just don’t think he should be running this time around. Time to pass the baton. Again, take a few minutes and watch Bill Maher’s show on You Tube that was on last night.
I disagree about having Biden step down, for a couple of reasons. One, he is mentally still very sharp and has a lot of experience that we need in the office right now. And two, there are many, many people who stay sharp beyond their 80s. I will also add that the people I've seen suggested to replace Biden don't have the experience to do the same level of work Biden has done, and will continue to do.
Over the years I’ve helped escort and plan reunions for WW2 veterans. Several of them are still around and are still sharp in their late 90s and 100s. So we can’t predict what mid-80s is for Joe based on a 90 minute Gish gallop event by Trump enabled by CNN. Trump is a strongman character. He’s an actor. Joe is not. Joe will decide when he’s ready to leave. We’ve trusted him so far. I continue to count on him. I’m not letting some fake ass liar put me into a panic.
Ruth, Thank you, thank you for your analysis! It all comes down to stage presence and the truth gets buried. Sadly, Biden was unable to defend the truth very well.
Unfortunately for Pres. Biden, many of the Talking Heads, like Ezra Klein, and now Medhi Hassan, are saying Joe needs to go.
The talking heads need to look at the president’s record, his achievements, his character and give him a break for a 90 minute free for all not abated by CNN in which Trump lied consistently and even brought some new material to his schtick. We are all familiar enough with Biden by now to understand he is energized and compassionate regarding his base and audience, which was absent at this particular debate. Why was that? Did anyone see his rally only eighteen hours later in NC where he brought the booming voice 🔥 and loving leadership, his presidential style at its finest? The man is human and can be forgiven a low energy performance in which he was not feeling well. You’d remove him from the ticket for a mere ninety minutes of being overwhelmed with a firehose of lies and no one exposing Trumps ongoing lies and pushback? Shame on you for such disrespect to this fine president. He is a human being after all, one of the finest, not Superman exposed and alone on a dark stage with the equivalent of Satan much too close to him and forever screeching.
I appreciate what you say. Heather Cox Richardson had some excellent comments in support. I’m sticking with Biden, but there are some powerful voices who are telling him he has to go. I’m very disappointed in those talking heads, especially Medhi Hassan.
Brava! Thanks so much for pulling us off the ledge and bringing us back to sanity and reason.
I agree: Biden is the best president ever. We are lucky he has agreed to run and then run again considering the worldwide disaster and chaos of the prior administration. I am steadfastly and absolutely supporting the Biden Harris Administration and voting for a second term.
Biden did site the lies. Frequently. And Trump lied, continuously. That’s his status quo , while Biden runs the country with expert diplomacy , it’s a complicated world with a thousand cuts a day into the fray.
It was ,for the informed, a lying debacle, just what we expected. Repetitive. Boring. His base loves it. Nothing but old hate for us.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Great job running the country , Joe
Four more years💙
There is a hard fact here that cannot be ignored. Whatever the case about last night (a cold, a bad night, a weak performance, or whatever) the simple fact is that Joe Biden is old. I can safely talk about this because I’m only a year younger than he is. Being old at any given moment in itself is not the problem. What is the problem is that because he is over 80, the odds are heavily stacked against his being at all certain of being up to another four years. And it seems to me that if he really does have our best interests at heart, as I believe he does, he needs to acknowledge the implications of those odds. He needs to step aside and hand the awful burden of the US Presidency off to the next generation, and he should have prepared to do that some time ago.
I agree. He initially implied that he would be the stopgap President, serving one term to prevent trump from regaining the White House and then making way for someone else. He had four years to choose that other person and get the DNC and the Democratic Leadership Team on board. Instead he fell into the trap of thinking that only he could beat trump. I imagine that being President is rather intoxicating and not easy at all to walk away from so there is that factor as well.
Thank you for your comment and for the courage it took in posting it. I did the same elsewhere and was told that that if I didn’t think Biden was the best President ever! and the end-all, be-all for the job of President!, then I could just go away and how dare I kick him when he was down. I am always wary of the ‘gushers’, people who jump all in without looking at or acknowledging the facts, people who tell others with different opinions or thoughts to shut up or go away. I’m seeing a lot of that right now across multiple Substack accounts. Thanks again for your comment.
I think we have to expect that people will defend Biden utterly, and indeed there is a great deal to defend. I too have gotten some pushback elsewhere. It is to be expected.
Again, NO!!!
No!!!
No, I don’t agree. A lot of people in their 80’s and even 90’s are very sharp and some also have a wealth of experience. I think Joe is one of those people. It’s too late for him to bow out now. And if he did bow out, it would be chaotic and the Democrats would lose. I think we have to do everything we can to support him and what he stands for. The stakes are too high. The threat of authoritarianism is too great.
Unfortunately only time will prove one of us right or wrong. But if Biden remains in the race and Trump wins because of that, it will be too late to gainsay the odds
I disagree with you, on the basis that I think the job energizes him. He has shown that when needed for real issues/events, he has the stamina. I don't see that changing any time soon.
I hope you are right. If he gets re-elected we better be.
None of this is accidental or incidental. The underfunding of libraries and demonizing of literacy, the shift of news from fact-reporting to entertainment, and the insistence of adherence to Christian dogma as a qualifier for public office, all lay a fertile groundwork for bowing down to an authoritarian, even one as ignorant and weak as DJT. We are so screwed. They've been working on this since 1964. We are late to the party.
Trump is indeed a horrible, horrible person. And as Ruth says the bar is set incredibly low for him. All he has to do is keep repeating his lies and attacks with his reptilian sneer and tough guy swagger, and people eat it up.
Biden is dealing with tough, real, complicated issues. He reviews facts and examines options for solving problems. The real world is much more complex and subtle than the fake Trump BS ("I could end this war immediately"). But let's face it, Biden was incoherent much of the time last night. He said "We beat Medicare." He got numbers and facts and stories wrong and seemed confused and out of it.
I think Biden has been a very good President in many respects, and I will continue to support him if he is the nominee. But we need a President who is sharp, alert, in control, and can communicate clearly and decisively all the time, not just once in a while. What happens if Putin attacks Poland, or Xi attacks Taiwan, when Biden is confused? What happens if we have another major terrorist attack on US soil, like 911, or Oct 7 in Israel? Do we just wait for Biden to come out of his fog and hope for the best?
As traumatic and difficult as it would be, I think the best solution is for Biden to step aside so we can have an open convention. If he does that he will go down in history as being one of our greatest patriots and a hero for Democracy. If he stays in the race I think the odds are very high that Trump will win the election (maybe even fairly), and then Democracy is over in the United States.
No!!!
Trump is a dangerous seasoned liar and propagandist as you have written. We need your help to make more People aware of the techniques
he employs and how best to fight the latest talking points about not changing the names of schools and military bases named after Confederates because it costs too much and erases the history of America. He stated George Washington did not have slaves. My community authorised funds to change school names and local republicans complain the money should be used elsewhere.
Medhi is an overrated, legend in his own mind media person. I don't take him seriously.
I did not watch the debate. I am in a different time zone and at 3 am I was sleeping. I am in total agreement with what you are saying. I did not need to watch the debate because I am not an undecided voter, and honestly, I cannot stomach Trump. So, I wait to hear from people I respect. Thank you.
Debates for me are like first time job interviews for those unacquainted with the candidates. Here both candidates have track records. Both have articulated the direction they want to take the country in. Trump wants all power centralized in the Presidency; he wants to rule as monarchs do. While I am not enamored with Biden’s Middle East policies, I do believe maintaining a vibrant democracy is important. The difference between the two for me is so vast that nothing either one of them said would make a difference. While we always want our guy / girl to look good nothing that happened in the debate would have changed things for me . Honestly, I would vote for a random homeless person before I would vote for Trump. Why would I vote for a digital rapist, and convicted felon who steals the countries secrets to sell them to our enemies. Biden could have peed on himself onstage and I would still vote for him . But that’s just me .
I totally agree
I just tried to share this on Facebook and within a minute it was deleted for violating “Community Standards.” I have no idea what they’re doing.