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Sandra A. Jones's avatar

No one ever mentions the Budapest Memorandum in which Ukraine was assured territorial sovereignty against threats by Russia and other signatories. Russia violated this in 2014 with its invasion of Crimea.

Rick Kominick's avatar

Such a joke perse it goes to show how dishonest the government is in so many categories I agree with you totally 💯

Jeff Lazar's avatar

Thoroughly enjoyable chat, ladies. Thank you. Please do one again...soon!

Patricia F. Neyman's avatar

That was quite interesting! Thank you.

C. J. Finseth's avatar

Brilliant and revelatory discussion. I learned so much. Please talk together more often you two. I'd like to see you take what you discussed today and apply it to Trump and where we in the US are today.

John Griffin's avatar

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

Pamela Hetherly's avatar

Thank you for this. The two of you are so good together, I always learn a lot. An incredible combo.

Fletcher Barton's avatar

Discussion about Iran t/c? The mention of the Guard revolutionizing really needs a follow-up!

Rick Kominick's avatar

Thanks Ruth I enjoy Anne’s take on virtually everything!!! I’ve read all of both of your works

If I was from another planet I’d be saying to myself why are both of you the leaders of our society governments etc like an episode of old Star Trek or something if I saw the current leadership on tv etc I’d not want to even establish first contact unless it was president Zelensky 🇺🇦

Barbara Wilson's avatar

Wonderful discussion. I don't believe that Trump has resisted understanding that Ukraine must continue fighting or it and its leaders will be annihilated. I believe that he understands that outcome perfectly, but either he simply doesn't care or, more likely, he wants their annihilation so that he can remain in Putin's favor.

Steve Rasmussen's avatar

tRump visited Moscow on business when it was the Soviet Union, so he has no problem dealing with dictatorships. He has no conscience, so it matters not, if people or nations die. He's not beholden to anyone because he has no emotional connection to anyone. Everything is transactional/mechanical with him.

Doug Fay's avatar

Regarding the Ukrainians' remarkable ability to make drones, isn't that party due to Ukraine having people with especially strong technical skills? Weren't they a primary source of such skills during the Soviet era?

Rick Kominick's avatar

I strongly recommend that you interview Olena Kryzhanivska Ruth she has incredible knowledge about the Ukrainian drone industry

Susan Hamburger's avatar

That was great ladies. Thanks for spelling the situation so clearly

Christina Elworth's avatar

Kash Patel is going to St Petersburg in October…why?

Richard Gaulin's avatar

Trump is a puppet President for Putin and Netanyahu. Putin is also trying to help Trump subvert the Midterm election. I hope all Americans come out in full force to vote out the Republicans completely ... otherwise I have a bad feeling this ICE Gestapo will be another tool to interfere with voting. The Republicans have sabotaged the US Constitution otherwise Trump would never have been allowed to be President and he would have been impeached by now. Hoping for a miracle here.

NONONO's avatar

"This is a difference from Stalinism, to make people see so many different explanations and so much information that they say, right, I have no idea what’s happening. I don’t know what’s true." Many of us got a mailing from a friend asking a number of questions including about Collins in GA asking if it was true. She was obviously scared (and had escaped Nazi Germany with her parents). She also graduated college suma cum laude and reads ;) . I'd say Vought et al his a key milestone.

Nothing like being warned about what's coming and what's happened and seeing more and more of a breakdown of what makes us human.

Kate Delano-Condax Decker's avatar

Truly terrific discussion by two outstanding historians and political analysts, Ruth Ben-Ghiat and Anne Applebaum. No one could have explained better the points made, all of them interesting, critically important, and not widely known, as I see it -- we need more discussions like this one.

The mushy world of corporation-paid "journalism" is everywhere. A discussion like this one, however, packs a ton of essential factual information into a clear description of what is really going on between Ukraine, Russia, the United States, and Europe

The intelligence and ability of Ben-Ghiat and Applebaum to explain with such perfect clarity is exactly what is badly needed. I hope you will together do more discussions like this. And thanks for this!